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The only real competitor here is if Sony somehow manages to disentangle its various division heads from its various division asses and come out with a branded Sony PlayStation Portable phone.

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Which we doubt will ever happen. Every smartphone has been trying to leapfrog previous smartphones in order to claim the crown of "most connected phone. This data-centric design has both out-Appled Apple , and could win the connectedness war. But it's not as far as Microsoft can go. There are a lot of semi-neglected features that the tech-savvy have ditched Microsoft and gone to Google for.

Nobody really uses these because they're not connected to anything. If Microsoft can bundle Windows Live tightly into the phone and give people an integrated experience—something Google is kicking total ass with on Android, and Apple is only kinda doing with MobileMe—that's one more check in the "win" column.

Being able to check Twitter from your phone isn't enough; every phone out there can do that. Microsoft needs to actually throw its weight around and make its services talk to each other. Imagine a scenario where you're playing an Xbox Live game on your Windows Phone and you do something cool, like getting an achievement oh yes, why not Achievements for games on there too? Pretty cool, no? This is the type of thing that has taken Microsoft so long to do, for some bureaucratic reason that only division heads can fathom. Why can Google pump out stuff like Buzz and even enact privacy fixes quickly , but Microsoft can't even get its various online divisions to talk to each other to plan out ideas?

Google is Microsoft's primary competitor in the online space here, and if Microsoft doesn't get it together and understand that much of what people need from traditional apps is moving into internet apps, Windows Phone will be sad indeed. Time will tell how well the mobile version of Internet Explorer—the one stuck somewhere between IE7 and IE8—will perform compared to the WebKit ones used by the other major smartphone OSes.

That might be one instance where Microsoft should go external instead of eating its own dog food. Indeed, maybe all the Windows Live services are moot, and there's no way, in the end, to out-Google Google. But I can bet Steve Ballmer will eat his own children before he starts integrating a bunch of Google apps onto his phones. Keeping a constant 3G connection to fetch tweets, stats, emails and so on is rough on the battery, and we would rather have a phone that can last an entire day's use. The lessons learned from the Vista to Win 7 transition are applied neatly to Windows Phone as well.

Instead of presenting users too many options at once, slowing everything down, Windows Phone repackages it into an interface that seems faster and streamlined, but is still powerful at its core. It's still unclear how much multitasking—the core functionality of Windows and part of the reason why it's called Windows—will make it into Windows Phone. If you can't find a way to manage full multitasking, like Android or Pre, you should at least be able to do some stuff.

Like playing Pandora in the background while you answer emails, or being able to switch back and forth between a web page, a word document and email without having to reload each every time you do so. But also, even with all the cloud syncing, we need a form of desktop syncing that's as good, if not better, than Apple's iTunes solution. Hooking up photos, music and videos is already taken care of by the Zune suite, but contacts, calendar, social networking account info, emails and more should all be handled as well. One of the big things about Windows is that you can shove it on high-end hardware and low-end hardware and it would still be called Windows.

Nobody wants to have a slow-ass phone experience, like Windows Mobile was subject to, because all the manufacturers were too cheap to put good hardware in there. So no, not Windows like this. There wasn't much shown about the intricacies of Office other than it's there, and it works, so we're left wondering how Microsoft will integrate such a simplified OS with the necessary complexities of Word and PowerPoint and Excel.

Will your finger be a fleshy Theseus, deftly winding its way through Labyrinthian spreadsheets while you're standing in line at the post office, with mobile Clippy being your Ariadne? Or will the small screen size and lack of sufficient thought into how a bigass productivity app will work form the minotaur that craps on your presentation? Either way, we've already seen how Microsoft has ported Office onto Windows Mobile before, and it wasn't pretty.

If whoever's in charge of the Office division can finally see that Office doing well on any platform is great for all platforms, maybe then we'll get a good implementation on the phone. If Steve Jobs can scare the iWork team into making a pretty-damn-good touch-version of iWork for the iPad, how can a touch Office not be doable at Microsoft? If it can't be done, Ballmer just isn't doing his job.

The main competitor here is, once again, Google. Google Docs is quite decent for normal people to use on Android. Maybe making Office's online component phone-friendly is the way MS needs to go, rather than porting a heavy app into a less heavy one. Either way, if Microsoft wants to be the phone for businessdudes, they'll have to think this part through.

Although Microsoft didn't go far enough in the direction we like and actually build its own hardware, they are setting strict minimum requirements and limitations on who can build a Windows Phone and who can't.

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Belfiore told us, "In this release, we picked the things that mattered most to the user experience, and we require them. So in this release capacitive touch is required. Like Google, Microsoft is taking an active step in working with partners. Belfiore says they are bringing "in a lot of the hardware that our partners are building, and doing extensive testing on the hardware ourselves. By insulating itself from the politics of Microsoft and not having to be subservient to any one division, Windows Phone found it possible to integrate the best from nearly all divisions.

But it's not enough. The promise of Zune on Windows Phone is great, and the promise of Xbox Live is great, and the promise of online connectivity is great—we just need to see how they execute. And for the first time, maybe ever, Microsoft isn't just selling a lot of shit—they've got a chance at winning over our pockets, desktops and living rooms by earning it.

Eric Hautala, general manager of customer experience engineering at Microsoft, warns you may damage your smartphone if you go the jailbreaking route when adding updates like NoDo. Or your phone might get misconfigured and not receive future updates.

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Just to really put the average consumer off, Hautala drops the brick bomb. This post is likely a reaction to consumers getting tired of waiting for official updates and seeking unoffocial alternatives instead. A previous update mistake that saw Samsung Omnia 7 handsets brick has probably done little to help the situation, either. If you have been patiently waiting for update, which adds the useful copy and paste function, O2 has began rolling it out to its customers. So far, we've not heard of any major issues. Oh please Android is a great idea, that has not even come close to fulfilling its promise.

And with the introduction of WP7, my interest in Android has fallen considerably. If I wasn't locked into a contract, WP7 would probably be at the top of my list if I was getting a new phone. One of the things holding them back now is simply that it is such a new OS and not all carriers have WP7 phones.

Phone makers don't have a choice, modders will override locks on good hardware. Palm has had this for decades. Why no WP7 love? Because I use WebOS. The ads are great. My kids love the one where the dad is playing catch but not paying attention and gets beaned.

I'm kinda hooked on iphone for now though It's the only mainstream smartphone OS that's actually designed for smartphones, as far as I can tell. Android might get there if someone actually made it look clean and clear rather than cluttered and busy, but I don't see that happening any time soon; there are too many sperglords wanking themselves into a frenzy over its "openness" to ever accommodate a reasonable amount of order. But then again, it'll just be an announcement. Probably related to Mango, which isn't scheduled before August. Custom ROMs are nice and all, but everytime I had one installed on either my Magic or Nexus , they came with tons of quirks.

Sure, they were faster and all that, but also introduced tons of niggles that became annoying when summed up. DrPizza wrote: Not only that but I consider Android as open as iOS is. You have to hack an Android phone in order to get complete control in what it's able to do. To me that's exactly the same lockdown as iOS has. Haven't seen one in the wild still. A small company a friend works for is probably going to upgrade from 6.

I'm in the UK and have had a Samsung Omnia 7 since launch. It just happened that my previous contract was up as WP7 came out and I liked what I saw so took the plunge. I have yet to see another one in the wild over here, and have not seen much promotion except a few posters at Victoria train station. I like the platform, I like the lovely screen on my phone, and am looking forward to how things progress with it all. When I bought it I knew it might not be as feature-rich as iOS or Android, or have as many apps, but I'm going to have this phone until my contract runs out in 18 months and was willing to gamble that WP7 will get there and show its strengths during this time.

I think the distinctive styling of WP7 leads to a much nicer looking phone OS than the other two, and hopefully this will help. That being said, I think it might be hard for Microsoft to get a foothold in the market. A significant percentage of my friends have iPhones. They have them because there friends have them and the like what they see. They don't care about the details of the OS and they're not aware of the alternatives. And even if they were, they would likely still go for iPhones because they're 'cool'.

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Andriod attracts people who are tech-savvy and want the ability to tweek their device, mess around with it and do some neat hacks. Amongst my friends it doesn't seem have a market outside of this. WP7 is neither 'cool' currently nor hackable and is likely to struggle to attract people from either iPhone or Andriod.

If it fragments like Andriod is starting to this will likely stop the iPhone users from moving over as they all want to have the newest, 'coolest' phones. How Microsoft is going to overcome this hurdles will be interesting. I'm not quite sure what I would do, but that is probably why I'm not in charge of one of the biggest companies in the world!

They managed to do it with the XBox when Sony seemed to have such a massive head-start, but phones are very different from games consoles. That said I'm 26, live in London, have a pretty good job and no dependants - and most of my friends are the same. We're all prime iPhone demographic with enough money to pay the premium that comes with Apple products. Outside of this subset of the population things are no doubt different. Andriod devices are likely to be more popular as they can be cheaper - rather than more hackable - and WP7 might gain some market share here.

If Microsoft and the hardware partners can be competitive with mid-range Andriod devices on price, WP7 has a good chance of getting some wins here.

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Most important is not to judge it all just yet. Here in the UK phone contracts are months. Except for early adopters and those with far too much money both likely to be in the Apple demographic , most people will only change their phone at the end of a contract. I would have been very surprised to see the spike in sales seen with a new Apple release, but expect more of a slow burn - like Android a couple of years ago, except in a more crowded market.

To make WP7 cooler, Microsoft won't get around designing their own phone. You would assume they will have dual-core models announced at MWC or some time this year. Android made all the splash at the just-concluded CES.

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Personally, I wasn't going to consider it but if I could pick up a model with a 4-inch or greater screen unlocked and there are some third-party GPS apps. But Android would be the other obvious option. I'm all for competition driving prices down. Bob Servo wrote: It's also things like accessories. There's an enormous market for iPhone accessories, because every iPhone at least within a generation is identical. There's no good ability for a company to make, let's say, a d-pad accessory for Windows Phone, because every damn handset would need its own design.

MS would have to commit a lot of capital to produce millions and if they really want to be a player, tens of millions of handsets a year. Apple for instance committed a big chunk of money to help build new screen factories with a couple of suppliers, in addition to however much they commit to the supply chain for the scale they're operating at. MS obviously wasn't willing to do that with the Zune, which I believe was never released overseas? And given the success of Android, they shouldn't have to make and distribute phones under their own brand.

But they had a high spec requirement, which will probably limit their market share compared to Android, which will be offered at all price bands. The best they can probably hope is that in the aggregate, WP7 approaches iPhone volumes some day. As far as cool factor, it's probably almost impossible to match the impact of the original iPhone unveiling. No matter how good and distinctive the UI may be, it's not going to have the wow factor as the multitouch interface being shown to the broad public for the first time in January But maybe they could match the catalyst moment that got the Droid going.


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A simple comment like this is completely useless on its own. There is no survey being conducted here, rather a discussion about WP7. The title of the thread starts with the word 'Why', this should give you some clue as to what sort of replies the poster is looking for. Would be nice if Microsoft would pull a Google Nexus by choosing a dual core platform and guide a company like HTC or Samsung to design a good-looking phone around it.

Like this they could churn a Zune phone out without much losses. If you want a simple to use smartphone that just works and carries some cache, you get an iPhone If you want a smartphnoe that integrates with your companies messaging, you get a Blackberry If you want a smartphone that you get dig into the guts of, you get an Android What consumer segment is left for WP7?

It is rying to compete for the miniscule amount of marketshare that is up for grabs.